Friday, August 19, 2022

Re: Baxters


It's missing the enameled, tin "Coca-Cola" sign that was on a lot of these neighborhood markets.

Bill H


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On Aug 19, 2022, at 9:01 AM, John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:




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To: Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com>


Hi Al,
I added the bike you suggested.  Took a while, bikes are complicated things. See the attached.
Johnny


On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:57 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
I think I used all three methods. I remember bikes laying in the way. Probably those scooters we built too.
The road in front of the store was pretty level. Across the street was an empty lot.
Here's a clip from the 8 MM film I made about 1971. I'm not sure if that square facia was always there or not.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 2:00 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
I'll look to see if there is an email address for Bill Harrington.  He didn't really chat much, so I may have trouble finding his email.

This model of the store is a 3D model that you can walk through.  You can look at it from any angle or position within the model.  So the bike will be a complete bike and be viewable from any direction. I'll probably design it with a kick stand so that it will be realistic to park it anywhere in front of the store, or just lying down on the sidewalk.  I don't think there was a bike rack in front of the store.  I can imagine just leaning the bike on the outside left wall of the store.
Johnny

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 1:25 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, that's the name. Didn't he join the Berendo group for awhile?
Do you have an email for him?
I guess about half or more of a bike outside would be below the window. Maybe part could be seen through the door. 

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 9:09 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
I'll see if I can come up with a bike in front of the store.  I also want to add the Newsome house and the little house to the right of the store eventually.  Bill Harrington was the guy you are referring to that lived in our old house.  My folks at first rented to the Harrington family and then, later, sold it to them.
Johnny

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 7:28 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Julie enjoyed the pictures. She said everything looked good.
I think you should add a partial view of a bike or two outside the window when looking out if that is possible.
What was the name of that guy who joined the group some years ago who lived in your old house?
Alex

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 1:50 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow,  She's about 88 now.  Tell her we wish her continued health.
Johnny

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 1:06 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
about 1951


On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 9:25 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Al,
What year was that, that Russell and Julie got married?
Johnny

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 4:46 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
They married when Julie was 17 and Russ was 21

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 2:48 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
I didn't know Julie Garner was still around.  When did she and Russell marry, how old were they?
Johnny

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 12:50 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Looks great!  I'll send them on to Julie Garner and see what she thinks.


On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 12:26 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
Here is the current state of the Baxter store model.  Let me know if you see anything that is wrong or missing.
Johnny


On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 9:44 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi John,  how is the picture coming along?
The 1950 census is almost done. I'll send some pictures when they are available.
Alex

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Re: Baxters

Nice rendering.  Just a note, the fresh meat case was across the back of the store.  My grandmother often sent me over to buy the meat for dinner and bread at 25 cents.  Hope she didn't count the change because I would sometimes get a penny candy treat and eat it before returning home.

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On Aug 19, 2022, at 9:01 AM, John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:




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Date: Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Baxters
To: Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com>


Hi Al,
I added the bike you suggested.  Took a while, bikes are complicated things. See the attached.
Johnny


On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:57 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
I think I used all three methods. I remember bikes laying in the way. Probably those scooters we built too.
The road in front of the store was pretty level. Across the street was an empty lot.
Here's a clip from the 8 MM film I made about 1971. I'm not sure if that square facia was always there or not.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 2:00 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
I'll look to see if there is an email address for Bill Harrington.  He didn't really chat much, so I may have trouble finding his email.

This model of the store is a 3D model that you can walk through.  You can look at it from any angle or position within the model.  So the bike will be a complete bike and be viewable from any direction. I'll probably design it with a kick stand so that it will be realistic to park it anywhere in front of the store, or just lying down on the sidewalk.  I don't think there was a bike rack in front of the store.  I can imagine just leaning the bike on the outside left wall of the store.
Johnny

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 1:25 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, that's the name. Didn't he join the Berendo group for awhile?
Do you have an email for him?
I guess about half or more of a bike outside would be below the window. Maybe part could be seen through the door. 

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 9:09 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
I'll see if I can come up with a bike in front of the store.  I also want to add the Newsome house and the little house to the right of the store eventually.  Bill Harrington was the guy you are referring to that lived in our old house.  My folks at first rented to the Harrington family and then, later, sold it to them.
Johnny

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 7:28 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Julie enjoyed the pictures. She said everything looked good.
I think you should add a partial view of a bike or two outside the window when looking out if that is possible.
What was the name of that guy who joined the group some years ago who lived in your old house?
Alex

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 1:50 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow,  She's about 88 now.  Tell her we wish her continued health.
Johnny

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 1:06 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
about 1951


On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 9:25 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Al,
What year was that, that Russell and Julie got married?
Johnny

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 4:46 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
They married when Julie was 17 and Russ was 21

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 2:48 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
I didn't know Julie Garner was still around.  When did she and Russell marry, how old were they?
Johnny

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 12:50 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Looks great!  I'll send them on to Julie Garner and see what she thinks.


On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 12:26 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
Here is the current state of the Baxter store model.  Let me know if you see anything that is wrong or missing.
Johnny


On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 9:44 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi John,  how is the picture coming along?
The 1950 census is almost done. I'll send some pictures when they are available.
Alex

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Date: Fri, Aug 19, 2022 at 8:59 AM
Subject: Re: Baxters
To: Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com>


Hi Al,
I added the bike you suggested.  Took a while, bikes are complicated things. See the attached.
Johnny


On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 6:57 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
I think I used all three methods. I remember bikes laying in the way. Probably those scooters we built too.
The road in front of the store was pretty level. Across the street was an empty lot.
Here's a clip from the 8 MM film I made about 1971. I'm not sure if that square facia was always there or not.

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 2:00 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
I'll look to see if there is an email address for Bill Harrington.  He didn't really chat much, so I may have trouble finding his email.

This model of the store is a 3D model that you can walk through.  You can look at it from any angle or position within the model.  So the bike will be a complete bike and be viewable from any direction. I'll probably design it with a kick stand so that it will be realistic to park it anywhere in front of the store, or just lying down on the sidewalk.  I don't think there was a bike rack in front of the store.  I can imagine just leaning the bike on the outside left wall of the store.
Johnny

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 1:25 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Yes, that's the name. Didn't he join the Berendo group for awhile?
Do you have an email for him?
I guess about half or more of a bike outside would be below the window. Maybe part could be seen through the door. 

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022 at 9:09 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
I'll see if I can come up with a bike in front of the store.  I also want to add the Newsome house and the little house to the right of the store eventually.  Bill Harrington was the guy you are referring to that lived in our old house.  My folks at first rented to the Harrington family and then, later, sold it to them.
Johnny

On Sat, Aug 13, 2022 at 7:28 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Julie enjoyed the pictures. She said everything looked good.
I think you should add a partial view of a bike or two outside the window when looking out if that is possible.
What was the name of that guy who joined the group some years ago who lived in your old house?
Alex

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 1:50 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Wow,  She's about 88 now.  Tell her we wish her continued health.
Johnny

On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 1:06 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
about 1951


On Wed, Aug 3, 2022 at 9:25 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Al,
What year was that, that Russell and Julie got married?
Johnny

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 4:46 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
They married when Julie was 17 and Russ was 21

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 2:48 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
I didn't know Julie Garner was still around.  When did she and Russell marry, how old were they?
Johnny

On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 12:50 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Looks great!  I'll send them on to Julie Garner and see what she thinks.


On Tue, Aug 2, 2022 at 12:26 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Al,
Here is the current state of the Baxter store model.  Let me know if you see anything that is wrong or missing.
Johnny


On Mon, Aug 1, 2022 at 9:44 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi John,  how is the picture coming along?
The 1950 census is almost done. I'll send some pictures when they are available.
Alex

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Re: Berendo film about 1971

The Almond Joy was not cluttered enough --two little almond bumps! But check out my new ClutterBar (Pat. Pending), a fist-sized clump of almonds (almond farmers, thank me later) held together by just enough chocolate to do the job. Melts in your hand, sure, but not so much if you scarf it quickly! I just wish Mr. Baxter had lived to see this day!



On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:32 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
OK ... it took me a while, and you're all probably ahead of me on this.  I think Julie meant "cluttered" not clustered,  dark and cluttered.   So what would a dark and cluttered almond joy taste like? 😉Correct me if I'm wrong.
Johnny  

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 4:42 PM Mike Dumas <mdumas42@gmail.com> wrote:
"...  seemed dark and clustered".  ---I also connected this memory with the store, then realized I was thinking of an Almond Joy bar.

But there was an awning in the earlier days, for sure.  At least, I don't want to live in a world where there wasn't.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 4:34 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Julie Garner says she doesn't remember there being an awning on the store. She remembers a gumball machine and newstand. She said it seemed dark and clustered.
Alex

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 2:43 PM Mike Dumas <mdumas42@gmail.com> wrote:
Nice to see the nbrhd still looking the old way. First time i saw it as an adult was around 1980, and it had changed a lot by then.
--mike

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 8:26 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
I've posted this before, but now I uploaded it to Flickr.

At 1:09 is a quick glimpse of the little market.
Alex

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Thursday, August 18, 2022

Re: Berendo film about 1971

I must have misspelled it because a cluttered Almond joy would be to nutty to talk about.

On Thu, Aug 18, 2022 at 10:32 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:
OK ... it took me a while, and you're all probably ahead of me on this.  I think Julie meant "cluttered" not clustered,  dark and cluttered.   So what would a dark and cluttered almond joy taste like? 😉Correct me if I'm wrong.
Johnny  

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 4:42 PM Mike Dumas <mdumas42@gmail.com> wrote:
"...  seemed dark and clustered".  ---I also connected this memory with the store, then realized I was thinking of an Almond Joy bar.

But there was an awning in the earlier days, for sure.  At least, I don't want to live in a world where there wasn't.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 4:34 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Julie Garner says she doesn't remember there being an awning on the store. She remembers a gumball machine and newstand. She said it seemed dark and clustered.
Alex

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 2:43 PM Mike Dumas <mdumas42@gmail.com> wrote:
Nice to see the nbrhd still looking the old way. First time i saw it as an adult was around 1980, and it had changed a lot by then.
--mike

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 8:26 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
I've posted this before, but now I uploaded it to Flickr.

At 1:09 is a quick glimpse of the little market.
Alex

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Re: Berendo film about 1971

OK ... it took me a while, and you're all probably ahead of me on this.  I think Julie meant "cluttered" not clustered,  dark and cluttered.   So what would a dark and cluttered almond joy taste like? 😉Correct me if I'm wrong.
Johnny  

On Wed, Aug 17, 2022 at 4:42 PM Mike Dumas <mdumas42@gmail.com> wrote:
"...  seemed dark and clustered".  ---I also connected this memory with the store, then realized I was thinking of an Almond Joy bar.

But there was an awning in the earlier days, for sure.  At least, I don't want to live in a world where there wasn't.

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 4:34 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
Julie Garner says she doesn't remember there being an awning on the store. She remembers a gumball machine and newstand. She said it seemed dark and clustered.
Alex

On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 2:43 PM Mike Dumas <mdumas42@gmail.com> wrote:
Nice to see the nbrhd still looking the old way. First time i saw it as an adult was around 1980, and it had changed a lot by then.
--mike

On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 8:26 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:
I've posted this before, but now I uploaded it to Flickr.

At 1:09 is a quick glimpse of the little market.
Alex

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Wednesday, August 17, 2022

Re: Berendo film about 1971

"...  seemed dark and clustered".  ---I also connected this memory with the store, then realized I was thinking of an Almond Joy bar.

But there was an awning in the earlier days, for sure.  At least, I don't want to live in a world where there wasn't.

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Julie Garner says she doesn't remember there being an awning on the store. She remembers a gumball machine and newstand. She said it seemed dark and clustered.
Alex

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Nice to see the nbrhd still looking the old way. First time i saw it as an adult was around 1980, and it had changed a lot by then.
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At 1:09 is a quick glimpse of the little market.
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Monday, August 15, 2022

Re: Berendo film about 1971

Julie Garner says she doesn't remember there being an awning on the store. She remembers a gumball machine and newstand. She said it seemed dark and clustered.
Alex

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Nice to see the nbrhd still looking the old way. First time i saw it as an adult was around 1980, and it had changed a lot by then.
--mike

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Re: Berendo film about 1971

Yes, in that short clip I see a man walking toward the door. Not sure when it closed.

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Thanks for the link to the Berendo film in 1971.   The little store looks like it had a marquee on the gable end above the door and windows.  I don't think that was there in my time.  Do you think the store was still functioning as a store in 1971?
Johnny

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Sunday, August 14, 2022

Re: Berendo film about 1971

Hi Al,
Thanks for the link to the Berendo film in 1971.   The little store looks like it had a marquee on the gable end above the door and windows.  I don't think that was there in my time.  Do you think the store was still functioning as a store in 1971?
Johnny

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Thursday, May 12, 2022

The Little Grocery Store in the 40s and 50s



Back in the day when we were kids living near 112th and Berendo Avenue, one of the things we had in common was the little neighborhood store on 112th street between Budlong and Van Buren.  There we would go on errands for our moms or more often, to buy ourselves a treat such as ice cream or candy bars or soda pop.  The store owners knew us all by name. It was known during my years in the Berendo neighborhood variously as Newsoms, Baxters, and in my last years there, as Pearsons.  My brothers Mike and Dave both worked there and so did Mike Chenier.

Today if you were to go there you would see that the store has been converted into a garage.  The top picture is the way it looks today.  Just for the heck of it, I am creating on my PC a 3D model of the store both inside and outside. The bottom picture above is the result of my memory and those of my brothers, Dave, Mike and Tony and of  Alex Magdaleno, Cathy Fortuna, Larry Robinson and Mike Chenier.  This is a picture of the outside of the store, but I have also attempted to depict what was inside.  Later I will post pictures of the inside.

If you notice anything wrong or missing, please post a comment here so I can adjust the model.

Saturday, April 9, 2022

Re: 1950 census is out.

I got burned out after a few hours searching. There are many pictures in the enumeration district 19-954 and not every page is one side of the block. Some pages include parts of three streets.

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Hi Al,
That's great.  I didn't know some of those people on the Imperial side of Linda's house.  And I didn't know that Mr. Sayles was still alive.

Have you had a chance to look for the census for the other side (east) of Berendo where the Cheniers lived?

Johnny

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It's still not indexed for California so it took awhile to find these.

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Hi Al,
That's great.  I didn't know some of those people on the Imperial side of Linda's house.  And I didn't know that Mr. Sayles was still alive.

Have you had a chance to look for the census for the other side (east) of Berendo where the Cheniers lived?

Johnny

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Friday, April 8, 2022

1950 census is out.

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Tuesday, July 20, 2021

Re: I was surprised to come across this today.

Hi Juanita, 
Do you know if Tanit ever saw this video of your mothers' 100th birthday?
https://www.flickr.com/photos/26271367@N05/51128028481/in/album-72157607762605225/
Juliana is in there singing along with the musicians. They seemed to really enjoy it too. I wonder how many years it had been since she sang those songs?  I saw her singing along when they were playing and I told them to talk to her because she knew the songs.
Alex



On Friday, April 16, 2021 at 5:22:21 PM UTC-7 Juanita wrote:
Great article; thanks Al! Juliana was my godmother and she and her daughter Tanit visited my mom and me here in Palmdale several times over the years when Juliana was older. Her death re-connected me with her sister Elena, which has been really nice. 
-juani

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Thanks, Al! Not sure about some of those details (there was --maybe-- one "devout Catholic family" this side of the border among my relatives, and it wasn't on my mother's side), but some of the other bits had me racking up a string of Wikipedia tabs! Wouldn't mind seeing that pirate movie!

--mike

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