Re: Berendo neighbor

Maybe from the Neighborhood watch?

On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 10:56 AM Mike Dumas <mdumas42@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes, that's my point. The unforgettably-named Avonelle was not part of your family, but Dave Dobbins's. I never heard of Dave, but his mom's name is very familiar to me for some reason. Too late to ask our moms about this, but maybe my mom also knew Avonelle. Could it be Avonelle was part of the "Hen Party" (stitch 'n' chat) group that your mom and mine were going to when you and I were in kindergarten? (One year, for Christmas, they fixed up the girls' old love-worn dolls. You know, like how they beautified the lion, the tin man and the scarecrow after they gained entrance to Mario Lanza's Oz.)  That would explain why I'd likely hear her mentioned now and then.

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 3:42 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

That was Dave Dobbins writing.😀

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 12:56 PM Mike Dumas <mdumas42@gmail.com> wrote:

Wait, what?? "My mother's name was Avonelle." I thought that was your mom's sister's name, Al. Can't be two Avonelles in the same universe. It must be familiar to me from overheard parental conversations. The friendship was fairly active if a kid down the block got wind of it. Got any more details on this?

On Wed, Sep 13, 2023, 8:43 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's what he said when I asked him how our parents knew each other.------

Back in the 1940s our parents were neiborhood Watch called civil defense.  They wore whit military hats had black out curtains on every window.

Most of our neighbors worked at Douglas aircraft in one form or another from machinists to drivers to riveters like the movie Swing Shift.

My parents small house at the top of the hill had block parties served coffee doughnuts and bar b ques.  Our living room floors and dining room had hardwood finished floors covered with oriental are rugs.

When the evening shifts were over a lot of aircraft workers wives and hubbies came to our house to dance into the early dawn with the large RCA RADIO GLARING Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman.

John Wayne's cousin lived further down in Betendo near West Athens school his name was Joe Signs.  His son accidental was shot in military training.

John came to our house several times to dance while making movies.

All the families knew (Avie). My mothers name was Avonelle 

All the parents after the war were in the Woodcrest PTA or West Athens and we all attended the meetings in the auditoriums.

Our neighborhood was like millions of other patriotic families back during the war years and afterwards,

Up on the top of the hill we played Kick the can, red river, hud and seek, had b b guns, then we had massive dirt clod fights with our neighbors across the street whose dad was a animal doctor.

Oh so much to tell people what growing up in south LA WAS ALL ABLUT.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:41 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

They lived just over the top of the hill on Berendo. They had to work hard to get David into Bret Harte instead of Gompers.

I don't think he ever came over our way, maybe to walk to Washington. Here's his picture from Washington

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:26 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

HI Al,

Dave and Pam were returning home from a trip to South Dakota.  They stopped at an Idaho gas station to get gas.  David Dobbins was a customer there and started up a conversation with my brother.  Dave asked Dobbins where he was raised and that led to the discovery that Dobbins originally lived on Berendo south of Imperial.  Dobbins now lives in Coeur D'alene Idaho.

It's curious that I never knew of Dobbins.  I guess my world was smaller than I thought 😉.

Johnny

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 12:31 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I knew him well and my parents knew his parents. We email every few years.   How did Dave happen to meet him,

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 10:11 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

Al,

Do you recall a guy named David Dobbins?   My brother Dave met him at a gas station in Idaho.  They had never met before.  David Dobbins turns out to have lived on Berendo south of Imperial in the 114 hundred block.  He said he graduated from Washington High around 1960 - 61.

Johnny

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Re: Berendo neighbor

Yes, that's my point. The unforgettably-named Avonelle was not part of your family, but Dave Dobbins's. I never heard of Dave, but his mom's name is very familiar to me for some reason. Too late to ask our moms about this, but maybe my mom also knew Avonelle. Could it be Avonelle was part of the "Hen Party" (stitch 'n' chat) group that your mom and mine were going to when you and I were in kindergarten? (One year, for Christmas, they fixed up the girls' old love-worn dolls. You know, like how they beautified the lion, the tin man and the scarecrow after they gained entrance to Mario Lanza's Oz.)  That would explain why I'd likely hear her mentioned now and then.

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 3:42 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

That was Dave Dobbins writing.😀

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 12:56 PM Mike Dumas <mdumas42@gmail.com> wrote:

Wait, what?? "My mother's name was Avonelle." I thought that was your mom's sister's name, Al. Can't be two Avonelles in the same universe. It must be familiar to me from overheard parental conversations. The friendship was fairly active if a kid down the block got wind of it. Got any more details on this?

On Wed, Sep 13, 2023, 8:43 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's what he said when I asked him how our parents knew each other.------

Back in the 1940s our parents were neiborhood Watch called civil defense.  They wore whit military hats had black out curtains on every window.

Most of our neighbors worked at Douglas aircraft in one form or another from machinists to drivers to riveters like the movie Swing Shift.

My parents small house at the top of the hill had block parties served coffee doughnuts and bar b ques.  Our living room floors and dining room had hardwood finished floors covered with oriental are rugs.

When the evening shifts were over a lot of aircraft workers wives and hubbies came to our house to dance into the early dawn with the large RCA RADIO GLARING Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman.

John Wayne's cousin lived further down in Betendo near West Athens school his name was Joe Signs.  His son accidental was shot in military training.

John came to our house several times to dance while making movies.

All the families knew (Avie). My mothers name was Avonelle 

All the parents after the war were in the Woodcrest PTA or West Athens and we all attended the meetings in the auditoriums.

Our neighborhood was like millions of other patriotic families back during the war years and afterwards,

Up on the top of the hill we played Kick the can, red river, hud and seek, had b b guns, then we had massive dirt clod fights with our neighbors across the street whose dad was a animal doctor.

Oh so much to tell people what growing up in south LA WAS ALL ABLUT.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:41 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

They lived just over the top of the hill on Berendo. They had to work hard to get David into Bret Harte instead of Gompers.

I don't think he ever came over our way, maybe to walk to Washington. Here's his picture from Washington

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:26 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

HI Al,

Dave and Pam were returning home from a trip to South Dakota.  They stopped at an Idaho gas station to get gas.  David Dobbins was a customer there and started up a conversation with my brother.  Dave asked Dobbins where he was raised and that led to the discovery that Dobbins originally lived on Berendo south of Imperial.  Dobbins now lives in Coeur D'alene Idaho.

It's curious that I never knew of Dobbins.  I guess my world was smaller than I thought 😉.

Johnny

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 12:31 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I knew him well and my parents knew his parents. We email every few years.   How did Dave happen to meet him,

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 10:11 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

Al,

Do you recall a guy named David Dobbins?   My brother Dave met him at a gas station in Idaho.  They had never met before.  David Dobbins turns out to have lived on Berendo south of Imperial in the 114 hundred block.  He said he graduated from Washington High around 1960 - 61.

Johnny

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Re: Berendo neighbor

That was Dave Dobbins writing.😀

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 12:56 PM Mike Dumas <mdumas42@gmail.com> wrote:

Wait, what?? "My mother's name was Avonelle." I thought that was your mom's sister's name, Al. Can't be two Avonelles in the same universe. It must be familiar to me from overheard parental conversations. The friendship was fairly active if a kid down the block got wind of it. Got any more details on this?

On Wed, Sep 13, 2023, 8:43 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's what he said when I asked him how our parents knew each other.------

Back in the 1940s our parents were neiborhood Watch called civil defense.  They wore whit military hats had black out curtains on every window.

Most of our neighbors worked at Douglas aircraft in one form or another from machinists to drivers to riveters like the movie Swing Shift.

My parents small house at the top of the hill had block parties served coffee doughnuts and bar b ques.  Our living room floors and dining room had hardwood finished floors covered with oriental are rugs.

When the evening shifts were over a lot of aircraft workers wives and hubbies came to our house to dance into the early dawn with the large RCA RADIO GLARING Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman.

John Wayne's cousin lived further down in Betendo near West Athens school his name was Joe Signs.  His son accidental was shot in military training.

John came to our house several times to dance while making movies.

All the families knew (Avie). My mothers name was Avonelle 

All the parents after the war were in the Woodcrest PTA or West Athens and we all attended the meetings in the auditoriums.

Our neighborhood was like millions of other patriotic families back during the war years and afterwards,

Up on the top of the hill we played Kick the can, red river, hud and seek, had b b guns, then we had massive dirt clod fights with our neighbors across the street whose dad was a animal doctor.

Oh so much to tell people what growing up in south LA WAS ALL ABLUT.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:41 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

They lived just over the top of the hill on Berendo. They had to work hard to get David into Bret Harte instead of Gompers.

I don't think he ever came over our way, maybe to walk to Washington. Here's his picture from Washington

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:26 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

HI Al,

Dave and Pam were returning home from a trip to South Dakota.  They stopped at an Idaho gas station to get gas.  David Dobbins was a customer there and started up a conversation with my brother.  Dave asked Dobbins where he was raised and that led to the discovery that Dobbins originally lived on Berendo south of Imperial.  Dobbins now lives in Coeur D'alene Idaho.

It's curious that I never knew of Dobbins.  I guess my world was smaller than I thought 😉.

Johnny

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 12:31 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I knew him well and my parents knew his parents. We email every few years.   How did Dave happen to meet him,

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 10:11 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

Al,

Do you recall a guy named David Dobbins?   My brother Dave met him at a gas station in Idaho.  They had never met before.  David Dobbins turns out to have lived on Berendo south of Imperial in the 114 hundred block.  He said he graduated from Washington High around 1960 - 61.

Johnny

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Re: Berendo neighbor

Wait, what?? "My mother's name was Avonelle." I thought that was your mom's sister's name, Al. Can't be two Avonelles in the same universe. It must be familiar to me from overheard parental conversations. The friendship was fairly active if a kid down the block got wind of it. Got any more details on this?

On Wed, Sep 13, 2023, 8:43 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Here's what he said when I asked him how our parents knew each other.------

Back in the 1940s our parents were neiborhood Watch called civil defense.  They wore whit military hats had black out curtains on every window.

Most of our neighbors worked at Douglas aircraft in one form or another from machinists to drivers to riveters like the movie Swing Shift.

My parents small house at the top of the hill had block parties served coffee doughnuts and bar b ques.  Our living room floors and dining room had hardwood finished floors covered with oriental are rugs.

When the evening shifts were over a lot of aircraft workers wives and hubbies came to our house to dance into the early dawn with the large RCA RADIO GLARING Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman.

John Wayne's cousin lived further down in Betendo near West Athens school his name was Joe Signs.  His son accidental was shot in military training.

John came to our house several times to dance while making movies.

All the families knew (Avie). My mothers name was Avonelle 

All the parents after the war were in the Woodcrest PTA or West Athens and we all attended the meetings in the auditoriums.

Our neighborhood was like millions of other patriotic families back during the war years and afterwards,

Up on the top of the hill we played Kick the can, red river, hud and seek, had b b guns, then we had massive dirt clod fights with our neighbors across the street whose dad was a animal doctor.

Oh so much to tell people what growing up in south LA WAS ALL ABLUT.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:41 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

They lived just over the top of the hill on Berendo. They had to work hard to get David into Bret Harte instead of Gompers.

I don't think he ever came over our way, maybe to walk to Washington. Here's his picture from Washington

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:26 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

HI Al,

Dave and Pam were returning home from a trip to South Dakota.  They stopped at an Idaho gas station to get gas.  David Dobbins was a customer there and started up a conversation with my brother.  Dave asked Dobbins where he was raised and that led to the discovery that Dobbins originally lived on Berendo south of Imperial.  Dobbins now lives in Coeur D'alene Idaho.

It's curious that I never knew of Dobbins.  I guess my world was smaller than I thought 😉.

Johnny

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 12:31 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I knew him well and my parents knew his parents. We email every few years.   How did Dave happen to meet him,

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 10:11 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

Al,

Do you recall a guy named David Dobbins?   My brother Dave met him at a gas station in Idaho.  They had never met before.  David Dobbins turns out to have lived on Berendo south of Imperial in the 114 hundred block.  He said he graduated from Washington High around 1960 - 61.

Johnny

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Re: Berendo neighbor

Here's what he said when I asked him how our parents knew each other.------

Back in the 1940s our parents were neiborhood Watch called civil defense.  They wore whit military hats had black out curtains on every window.

Most of our neighbors worked at Douglas aircraft in one form or another from machinists to drivers to riveters like the movie Swing Shift.

My parents small house at the top of the hill had block parties served coffee doughnuts and bar b ques.  Our living room floors and dining room had hardwood finished floors covered with oriental are rugs.

When the evening shifts were over a lot of aircraft workers wives and hubbies came to our house to dance into the early dawn with the large RCA RADIO GLARING Glenn Miller and Benny Goodman.

John Wayne's cousin lived further down in Betendo near West Athens school his name was Joe Signs.  His son accidental was shot in military training.

John came to our house several times to dance while making movies.

All the families knew (Avie). My mothers name was Avonelle 

All the parents after the war were in the Woodcrest PTA or West Athens and we all attended the meetings in the auditoriums.

Our neighborhood was like millions of other patriotic families back during the war years and afterwards,

Up on the top of the hill we played Kick the can, red river, hud and seek, had b b guns, then we had massive dirt clod fights with our neighbors across the street whose dad was a animal doctor.

Oh so much to tell people what growing up in south LA WAS ALL ABLUT.

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:41 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

They lived just over the top of the hill on Berendo. They had to work hard to get David into Bret Harte instead of Gompers.

I don't think he ever came over our way, maybe to walk to Washington. Here's his picture from Washington

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:26 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

HI Al,

Dave and Pam were returning home from a trip to South Dakota.  They stopped at an Idaho gas station to get gas.  David Dobbins was a customer there and started up a conversation with my brother.  Dave asked Dobbins where he was raised and that led to the discovery that Dobbins originally lived on Berendo south of Imperial.  Dobbins now lives in Coeur D'alene Idaho.

It's curious that I never knew of Dobbins.  I guess my world was smaller than I thought 😉.

Johnny

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 12:31 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I knew him well and my parents knew his parents. We email every few years.   How did Dave happen to meet him,

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 10:11 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

Al,

Do you recall a guy named David Dobbins?   My brother Dave met him at a gas station in Idaho.  They had never met before.  David Dobbins turns out to have lived on Berendo south of Imperial in the 114 hundred block.  He said he graduated from Washington High around 1960 - 61.

Johnny

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Re: Berendo neighbor

They lived just over the top of the hill on Berendo. They had to work hard to get David into Bret Harte instead of Gompers.

I don't think he ever came over our way, maybe to walk to Washington. Here's his picture from Washington

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 3:26 PM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

HI Al,

Dave and Pam were returning home from a trip to South Dakota.  They stopped at an Idaho gas station to get gas.  David Dobbins was a customer there and started up a conversation with my brother.  Dave asked Dobbins where he was raised and that led to the discovery that Dobbins originally lived on Berendo south of Imperial.  Dobbins now lives in Coeur D'alene Idaho.

It's curious that I never knew of Dobbins.  I guess my world was smaller than I thought 😉.

Johnny

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 12:31 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I knew him well and my parents knew his parents. We email every few years.   How did Dave happen to meet him,

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 10:11 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

Al,

Do you recall a guy named David Dobbins?   My brother Dave met him at a gas station in Idaho.  They had never met before.  David Dobbins turns out to have lived on Berendo south of Imperial in the 114 hundred block.  He said he graduated from Washington High around 1960 - 61.

Johnny

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Re: Berendo neighbor

HI Al,

Dave and Pam were returning home from a trip to South Dakota.  They stopped at an Idaho gas station to get gas.  David Dobbins was a customer there and started up a conversation with my brother.  Dave asked Dobbins where he was raised and that led to the discovery that Dobbins originally lived on Berendo south of Imperial.  Dobbins now lives in Coeur D'alene Idaho.

It's curious that I never knew of Dobbins.  I guess my world was smaller than I thought 😉.

Johnny

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 12:31 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

Yes I knew him well and my parents knew his parents. We email every few years.   How did Dave happen to meet him,

On Sun, Sep 10, 2023 at 10:11 AM John Dumas <jdumasfelix@gmail.com> wrote:

Al,

Do you recall a guy named David Dobbins?   My brother Dave met him at a gas station in Idaho.  They had never met before.  David Dobbins turns out to have lived on Berendo south of Imperial in the 114 hundred block.  He said he graduated from Washington High around 1960 - 61.

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Re: Berendo neighbor

Yes I knew him well and my parents knew his parents. We email every few years.   How did Dave happen to meet him,

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Do you recall a guy named David Dobbins?   My brother Dave met him at a gas station in Idaho.  They had never met before.  David Dobbins turns out to have lived on Berendo south of Imperial in the 114 hundred block.  He said he graduated from Washington High around 1960 - 61.

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Berendo neighbor

Al,

Do you recall a guy named David Dobbins?   My brother Dave met him at a gas station in Idaho.  They had never met before.  David Dobbins turns out to have lived on Berendo south of Imperial in the 114 hundred block.  He said he graduated from Washington High around 1960 - 61.

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Re: Slagle House.

Hi Al,

I deleted your Verizon.net email from the group.  You were already a member with your Gmail address.  If a problem crops up because of the deletion, let me know.

Johnny

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Latino family (:-)

Johnny, Please change my email to eng42b@gmail.com

I don't check this one very often.

Alex

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Perhaps a bold statement of political leaning?

Johnny

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Binary address in honor of programmers, fire engine red in honor of firefighters! What's not to like?

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Marilyn Slagle took a trip by the old neighborhood. Wilc color on the house now.

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Re: Slagle House.

Latino family (:-)

Johnny, Please change my email to eng42b@gmail.com

I don't check this one very often.

Alex

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Perhaps a bold statement of political leaning?

Johnny

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Binary address in honor of programmers, fire engine red in honor of firefighters! What's not to like?

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Marilyn Slagle took a trip by the old neighborhood. Wilc color on the house now.

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Perhaps a bold statement of political leaning?

Johnny

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Binary address in honor of programmers, fire engine red in honor of firefighters! What's not to like?

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Re: Slagle House.

Interesting choice of color. 

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Boy, that's hard to miss 😉😉.

Johnny

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Boy, that's hard to miss 😉😉.

Johnny

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Slagle House.

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Re: Original message re Palos Verdes bike trip

Hi Al,

Dave described the market as pretty upscale.  I can't verify the date of your original post of the Palos Verdes trip.   My guess is late 90s early 2000s.

Johnny

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I remember that now. What year was that post? In front of the market was this fancy fountain that is still there.

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Hey Al,

Here is what you said many years ago about your Palos Verdes bike trip: (Found it at https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~jdumas/history/berendo/berenstr.html)

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About 1954, some of us decided to see it we could make it to Palos Verdes on our bikes. I think the riders were Dave, Larry, Mike Chenier and I. Larry had one of those English racing bikes with three speeds. Unfortunately, his shifter was broke so he had to ride all the way in low gear. The only time he had an advantage was on the hills and we didn't come to many hills till we actually got to the bottom of Palos Verdes. We went straight out Western Avenue to Palos Verdes Drive. We turned right and had quite a climb from there. We continued on to Via Campesina I believe. It started downhill and we got to go real fast. There was a big S curve and I remember getting a high speed shimmy while going around the corner. What a thrill! We stopped in the little village center there where the fountain is. At the Market we bought some big Navel oranges. They sure tasted great. We left from there on Palos Verdes Blvd. I don't know what route we took home from there. When we got home, we calculated that we had traveled about 40 miles. I don't think we took any patches or tools with us. I guess we just trusted to luck. It was a lot of fun, but we never did it again. I do remember a few rides to Hermosa beach with Larry and Danny Leftault, around 1956. Not fun riding home with sand in your trunks.(:-)
- Alex Magdaleno

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Re: Original message re Palos Verdes bike trip

I remember that now. What year was that post? In front of the market was this fancy fountain that is still there.

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Hey Al,

Here is what you said many years ago about your Palos Verdes bike trip: (Found it at https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~jdumas/history/berendo/berenstr.html)

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About 1954, some of us decided to see it we could make it to Palos Verdes on our bikes. I think the riders were Dave, Larry, Mike Chenier and I. Larry had one of those English racing bikes with three speeds. Unfortunately, his shifter was broke so he had to ride all the way in low gear. The only time he had an advantage was on the hills and we didn't come to many hills till we actually got to the bottom of Palos Verdes. We went straight out Western Avenue to Palos Verdes Drive. We turned right and had quite a climb from there. We continued on to Via Campesina I believe. It started downhill and we got to go real fast. There was a big S curve and I remember getting a high speed shimmy while going around the corner. What a thrill! We stopped in the little village center there where the fountain is. At the Market we bought some big Navel oranges. They sure tasted great. We left from there on Palos Verdes Blvd. I don't know what route we took home from there. When we got home, we calculated that we had traveled about 40 miles. I don't think we took any patches or tools with us. I guess we just trusted to luck. It was a lot of fun, but we never did it again. I do remember a few rides to Hermosa beach with Larry and Danny Leftault, around 1956. Not fun riding home with sand in your trunks.(:-)
- Alex Magdaleno

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Original message re Palos Verdes bike trip

Hey Al,

Here is what you said many years ago about your Palos Verdes bike trip: (Found it at https://freepages.rootsweb.com/~jdumas/history/berendo/berenstr.html)

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About 1954, some of us decided to see it we could make it to Palos Verdes on our bikes. I think the riders were Dave, Larry, Mike Chenier and I. Larry had one of those English racing bikes with three speeds. Unfortunately, his shifter was broke so he had to ride all the way in low gear. The only time he had an advantage was on the hills and we didn't come to many hills till we actually got to the bottom of Palos Verdes. We went straight out Western Avenue to Palos Verdes Drive. We turned right and had quite a climb from there. We continued on to Via Campesina I believe. It started downhill and we got to go real fast. There was a big S curve and I remember getting a high speed shimmy while going around the corner. What a thrill! We stopped in the little village center there where the fountain is. At the Market we bought some big Navel oranges. They sure tasted great. We left from there on Palos Verdes Blvd. I don't know what route we took home from there. When we got home, we calculated that we had traveled about 40 miles. I don't think we took any patches or tools with us. I guess we just trusted to luck. It was a lot of fun, but we never did it again. I do remember a few rides to Hermosa beach with Larry and Danny Leftault, around 1956. Not fun riding home with sand in your trunks.(:-)
- Alex Magdaleno

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Re: Bike ride to Palos Verdes

Larry and David, and I think you were there too? Ask David. 

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Al,

Who else was on the ride with you?

Johnny

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I see the hairpin turn is still there. It was downhill and we were going real fast. I was afraid there for a bit that I was going to run off the road.

I guess that was about 1956?

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Re: Bike ride to Palos Verdes

Inspired by this textbook specimen of a hairpin, I wondered if bobby pins are still in use, because I don't find them lying around the schoolyard like we used to, possibly because I attend school now only in terrifying dreams.  But we live in extreme times:

Yup, still in use.

--mike

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I see the hairpin turn is still there. It was downhill and we were going real fast. I was afraid there for a bit that I was going to run off the road.

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Re: Bike ride to Palos Verdes

Al,

Who else was on the ride with you?

Johnny

On Sat, Jul 29, 2023 at 11:05 PM Alex Magdaleno <eng42b@gmail.com> wrote:

I see the hairpin turn is still there. It was downhill and we were going real fast. I was afraid there for a bit that I was going to run off the road.

I guess that was about 1956?

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